2x33: Visual Github


#1

Jeremy Garcia, Jono Bacon, and Stuart Langridge present Bad Voltage, in which people apparently are allowed to just set up a company about rockets now, we don’t have HBO’s budget, and:

This show is dedicated to two inspiring people who recently died: open source journalist Robin “roblimo” Miller and chef and food writer Anthony Bourdain.

Come chat with us and the community in our Slack channel via https://badvoltage-slack.herokuapp.com/!

Download from https://badvoltage.org


#2

Regarding the local bitcoin story: if Jeremy was talking about localbitcoins.com, then the interest in this is not to avoid transaction cost, but to get “clean” bitcoin or, probably less often, to get any bitcoin at all without overhead of signing up for an exchange, identity verification with massive privacy intrusions etc.

People would meet in a bar, exchange cash, then make the transaction on the blockchain.
The buyer (of bitcoin, not of cash) ends up with bitcoin that is very hard to link to their actual identity.
So this being necessary/desirable is the consequence of bitcoin’s lack of actual anonymity, not of its transaction cost.


#3

It was mentioned in the show that the slack channel is bridged into matrix. How can I find the room ?


#4

This is what was mentioned on the channel: https://matrix.to/#/#BadVoltage:matrix.org


#5

Entertaining show again, and happy to hear the audio issues of last episode (Jeremy sounded as if he recorded in the toilet, or did he?) are resolved.

Interesting to notice you all seem to be much more pragmatic when it comes to using open source than, say a decade ago. Is that because open source IS more mainstream and we don’t need to fight for it that hard, or is it because you (and I) are getting older?

I remember being in my twenties and ferociously writing a masters thesis in nano with Latex, and running statistical analyses in R, but now, being close to forty, using Windows and the whole Office suite in work, knowing I can use whatever open source tooling for servers whenever I want?

I think the year of ‘Open source is mainstream’ has passed sometime ago and we all failed to notice. As compared to the year of ‘Linux on the desktop’ which in hindsight seems to be a completely irrelevant goal to achieve.


#6

just like to say - it was a pleasure reading that top comment.

it must’ve taken a while to put together and I thought it read well.


#7

Hot grits, I had no idea roblimo had passed away. Hopefully he’s gone to that great Natalie Portman-shaped Beowulf cluster in the sky.


#8

Just in the middle of listening to 2x33.
The question was asked (paraphrasing) “What would it take to trust Microsoft?”

I’d ask back in response, “Are they still getting millions from companies that implement Linux-based products for (not sure if they’ve been disclosed) patents regarding the kernel, and fat32?”

If they are, and I’m pretty sure that is the case, I cannot begin to trust them.

If they stop behaviour like this, and keep doing more of the good things that they are doing, perhaps that trust can be gained, but not soon. How long have they been trying to extinguish Linux and Open source? 20 years? How about 10 years of stopping that, and doing more good things. Then we can discuss trust.

All on my humble opinion.

--murph  (A listener, and humble Linux sysadmin)

#9

@murph … a genuinely good answer and commendable response.

I just wonder if any of his (BGates) children have ever used the system you sign off with?

perhaps that’s a better indicator to think about.


#10

At least you are being reasonable on the matter. Trust is earned, and you have presented a basis that you might be open to at least consider trusting. Many people are so unreasonable these days.


#11

The LFN patents were circumvented almost 9 years ago.


#12

@neuro yes recall back then quite well.

In another podcast they brought that linux-era up.

I remember thinking well if Firefox 3 and chromium are out, then why isn’t the LFN-patents up to a similar standard of freedom ?

It was surely a golden time, … but that all came to an end when the derivatives of ubuntu missed the window*

I remember usb’s were $2 from china for a 2GB flashdrive (and still are), so it could have been on the cover of FT-weekly or something.

*the window being, when XP expired and there was no “new and fresh” ubuntu to take its place.

It was a timing mismatch, that would’ve really helped freedom, if it had been synchronized less awkwardly.

you could place the error in the ‘consultation’, as some of those other services were withdrawn, oh well.


#13

Do they still also get money from Android and Linux distributors for some other kernel patent?


#14

@murph only on post-market os and AX2 sailfish IIRC

as far as some other kernel, it was never commercialised from 2014.


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