Jono de la Tourette syndrome: you canât help yourself and have to say the word âCommunityâ all the time.
Am I the only one whoâs just a wee bit disappointed http://thewordjonosaysalot.badvoltage.org/ doesnât link here (yet)?
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I would continue being disappointed if I were you. The person who runs the DNS and therefore gets to create new subdomains is: @jonobacon 
I think the reason we used to look forward to the death of Flash is because we always thought that a post-Flash world would be a plugin-free utopia where everything was based on standards that allow us to do everything Flash did and more, in a cross-browser and cross-platform way.
The reason that the death of Flash looks so scary now is that while we have HTML5 with new Javascript and CSS goodies, whatâs supplanting Flash is a mixture of Silverlight, Encrypted Media Extensions, Chrome-specific gubbins and other proprietary plugin-based technologies, most of which see cross-platform/browser support as an even less important than Adobe do. Rather than replacing a de facto standard with a de jure one, itâs being replaced with a bunfight of competing technologies.
I wholly agree with this. @bryanlunduke made the point that even if this is the case, it is still a good thing that Flash is going away, which I think is a reasonable point of view, but it is undeniably the case that from the point of view of the open source desktop, Flash going away will cost us something in terms of number of supported thingsâŚ
This is true. 
Itâs pronounced YOLLa btw. Stress on the first syllable and âjâ is pronounced like the âyâ in âyouâ and the âllâ is like a long lllll. Not too long of course.
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I think theyâre happy with either pronounciation.
Also, great show. And Transport Control Protocol⌠is that the one that specifies not commenting on your significant otherâs driving ability?
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Was wondering whoâd be the first to spot it 
Regarding the Jolla tablet: IMHO it is certainly a great device and it will work and it will be delivered. That is more than can be said about other contenders in the space of Open Source tablets. That said, it is just a shame, that there is so much duplicated efford behind the scenes between Jolla and Canonical. Both are Linux based tablets, both need something as a replacement for X11, both are based on Qt / QML. I guess we could have had a working tablet last year if both companies werenât so keen on doing it their way.
You could say the same for Andrid and Apple. This is the nature of competition.
I hate to skew the due prominence of Jolla phones in this thread, given the relative ratio of them out there, but I do know someone who owns one. Not the other guy in this thread either He was enthusiastic enough to often wear his âI am the first oneâ T-shirt from the crowdfunded campaign for it many casual-Fridays in the office. I think heâs happy enough with it now but if I picked up correctly, and also totally my experience with crowdfunding, it did arrive late and there were still a few (fairly standard albeit less used basic phone) things he couldnât do for a while.
I had a N900, loved it and still want that keyboard experience back but decided a mostly freedom-hating Android experience was my most usable choice after that. Flash worked great on the N900 for a good while btw⌠And video Skype calls (before it did anywhere else) - those people at Nokia realised the importance of getting core apps on the phone, and I think the SailfishOS folk do too; but lack of Google Play services might cause a lot of friction for users and even more so as Google move that way to allow upgrades to roll out to older devices. They donât state that issue in the indiegogo campaign and it will really bite anyone who hasnât done any further reading and expects All their favourite apps to work. Like Google maps (iirc), freemium games etc.
Despite loving the idea of more open source/ish systems out there and wishing them best of luck I still would rather (based on device spec) take a regular tablet and install their/other Linux OS(eg. Ubuntu) on it.
Products taking longer and changing spec before release is all part of usual development process but most people arenât used to that in products they buy into as a consumer, and donât know how to evaluate the teamâs ability to deliver, especially hardware. The crowdfunding bubble will continue to expand but that realisation across the general public will take a while to settle in. Itâs a big gamble.
PS I wrote more cos I didnât have time to make it less, and I need more sleep. Tl;dr: crowdfunding sucks as a buyer experience but Jolla did an ok job before, considering other crowd funded projects. Still wouldnât âbuyâ their tablet.
After listening to this episode, I immediately deleted Inbox from my Android. You guys are so evil.
Wow. I feel an awkward sense of power.
Hey, we werenât that horrid to it. 
Right, Jolla / SailfishOS / Ubuntu Phone. I guess I really ought to say controversial things nowâŚ
I use Android, and have done for about 3 years now, since the Galaxy Nexus. I now have a Nexus 5 and consider it the greatest (hardware) tool Iâve ever purchased, with the sole drawback that it has too short of a battery life.
I will not be switching to any other operating system, even if theyâre better in terms of features, battery life, or âfreedomâ â and itâs precisely why Apple were so successful with the iPod / iPhone / iPad line â the network effects of a nearly-closed-loop ecosystem.
The Android platform allows me to login once and automatically download all my settings, including email notifications and wifi passwords (of which there are many over the years), and it all just works. I can go from new phone to fully restored in about 15 minutes, 12 of which are waiting for the inevitable software update to finish. Iâve done this several times â not just for factory resets, but new phones and proving to someone that âit would workâ (always a risky manoeuvre)
Iâve not had to export/import my contacts list since moving to Android, I get to manage them within GMail, I get a very pretty calendar interface that shows both my work calendar and my personal calendar on the same list, and it will automatically download all the apps Iâve purchased and put them in the right places. It will even re-populate my âPlay Booksâ list with the books I was reading at the last place I read them.
Incidentally, the only apps I do download outside of the core Google utils are Facebook, Spotify, and PocketCasts â all of which sync data somewhere so that it picks up where it left off.
None of the other mobile operating systems will let me do that yet â or at least, nowhere near as easily. Android â no, Google is a fantastic ecosystem, and the network effects of having one single company deal with my email, my calendar, my books, my movies, everything I use at home⌠Itâs just one less thing I have to faff around with. Combine it with a Chromecast, and the fact I use a Chromebook Pixel at home, and Iâm pretty much tied in entirely to the Google ecosystem.
Should I need to leave Google, all that data can go with me very easily (Iâd only really need an ical and an imapsync run, everything else is retrievable from that). I donât ever intend to.
I use Android primarily because Google is fully integrated with it. If Googleâs excellent integration features were on something else, I might try that â but theyâre not. Some would call that a monopoly. I call it an excellent productâŚ
I think bryan preempted Jono by saying that word that jono says a lot near the beginning whilst talking about open vr drivers possibly?
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Ooh, really? Can you grab an audio snippet?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8geHaXcsTNSY2NuVWtoT1pBQ3M/view?usp=sharing
here it is somewhere around 8.26
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