1x22: Oval Ted Bag


#49

None. I only argue when people are wrong. This happens distressingly often; I’m a slave to the truth.


#50

No sil - you are a slave to your perception of what the truth is, at any particular time.


#51

Fortunately, what I perceive as truth is truth. :slight_smile:


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#53

@sil The truth is ad hoc. Once the truth was, that the earth was the center of the universe - today we know that it is not so. Once the truth was, that fish like salmon and cod was healthy food, today we know that they have a high concentration of heavy metals like mercury. And i could make 10 statements more like that. So hang on to your perception of what the truth is, just as long that you update your perceptions as evidence ticks in.


#54

No it isn’t. Belief is ad hoc. Knowledge, being mostly justified true belief (modulo the office story and Thomas Kuhn) might be ad hoc. The truth is not, even if we perceive it as through a glass, darkly.


#55

Okay @sil I was a bit loose and trigger happy there. But truth can still only be stated inside a confidence interval, making room for out layers and abnormalities.


#56

Totally. Much as I’d like to believe it, I don’t always know what the truth is. Just nearly always :slight_smile:


#57

Glad that we can agree to be critical :smiley:


#58

Then it was seen that it is I that is the center of the universe. And the sooner you all figure that out the better off I’ll be!


#59

About the free licensing of media:

The issue, as was brought up, is that no one cares about licenses when they can be ignored, eg pirating. What matters is when this becomes a problem and we have to find ways around the restrictions. Free licenses are one way to get around the dangers of restrictive licensing.

However, consider the media available under a CC license as compared to the media available to someone who will just ignore licenses. Just as it has taken a long time for open source software to grow, it will likewise take a long time to grow the CC media library. But once the catalog has grown, it will become a better option.


#60

In natural sciences, it used to be that the publishing companies had absolute rights to the material (text, graphics, etc.). Nowadays, with the advent of open access journals, that has changed significantly. While many journals still require the author to allow them some rights, there are those that require only minimal rights or none at all.

The best part is that the author nowadays is allowed by the huge majority of publishers to reuse/update parts of the paper (text,plots) or grant permission to others to use figures (a huge deal in science) and even reprint the article as long as no fee is charged.

IMHO, the absolutely best part is that you’re allowed to put a version of your article on free e-print servers, e.g., arxiv.org. This has literally revolutionized how science is done nowadays, because not every university has enough money to get a subscription to every journal. Previously, only rich western universities had enough money to get proper subscription, while everyone else was barred due to exceptionally high costs of journal subscriptions.


#61

Jono hasn’t been on Battlefield 4 in FUCKING AGES. Just saying.


#62

Jono has a new job. Priorities. :slight_smile:


#63

Meh. :smiley:


#64

Perhaps it’s just a matter of overcompensation. But, from what? :smile:


#65

Regarding this, I believe most people putting content on Youtube don’t give a crap about licensing and so, as @sil suggested, it could be good to have Youtube selecting a Creative Commons license by default.

I personally don’t care about “remixing the culture” or whatever, but having a CC license ease access to this content later without having troubles with all the copyright laws. There is so much amazing copyrighted content out there that no one can see or enjoy just because it’s copyrighted and therefore cannot be freely put online… This is such a shame…


#66

This got me wondering about our @jeremy. Our mild mannered, ordinary Jeremy. Is he this way because it’s a front? Perhaps an intelligence officer of some kind here? A secret evangelist? Or, oh this just come to me!!! You know, in the early days, who was called ordinary and mild mannered??? CLARK KENT!!!


#67

Agreed. One thing I forgot to mention in the show too is that I think that part of the problem with the CC thing not taking off is that there is a huge amount of pretty rubbish content out there, so there isn’t all that much quality stuff that people want to mix with. Of course, this is based on the content I have seen, so I may have not seen the good stuff.

Speaking of which, the vast majority of my own work is CC licensed and up at http://www.jonobacon.org/creative/ :slight_smile:


#68

@jonobacon,in the show you mentioned you went to the Creative Commons in SF and they were not interested in promoting CC content.

I think this is the key here: there should be some kind of website referencing good Creative Commons content… Truth is there are probably websites about this, but I don’t know any of them.

Jamendo is a great site for CC music, but as you said, it’s sometimes quite hard to find really good (i.e. “profesionnal quality”-like) music.

Projects like the Open Goldberg Variations show that CC can be used to produce great content.

Other great things are on the way, such as the Open Well Tempered Clavier or the Chopin Project.

To me CC play an extremely important role of making classical music (I mean music that fell into public domain a long time ago) available in high quality to everyone.


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